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Death Vox!?!?!
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Author:  Hellion [ Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:38 pm ]
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Can anyone give me tips on how to do decent death metal vocals? I don't mean "cookie monster" ones like necrophagist and nile, i mean like opeth and behemoth, where u can actually hear the lyrics. at the moment mine have no rasp to them and sound pretty shit. Cheers in advance.

Author:  Leon [ Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:26 pm ]
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You'll need to condition your throat a bit, so practice is the key. A lot of people try death vocals once and get a sore throat, this is your throat saying "fuckkkk offff!!". You'll need to do a fair amount of it before you see any results.

In terms of intelligibility you'll need to sing from your throat rather than your stomach to avoid that cookie monster burble.

Decent dm vox are all about breathing, you'll need to practice your breathing in order to be able to maintain the vocals.

Rayner drinks (not alcohol either) regularly at rehearsal to keep his voice from getting dry, and he has no problems as long as he has a drink.

Author:  Guest [ Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:21 am ]
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Cheers, ill give it a shot :twisted:

Author:  Hellion [ Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:23 am ]
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Author:  Matty_T [ Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:44 pm ]
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Do death metal kareoke! :D

Author:  Dan [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:39 pm ]
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Marklad, basically it's a lot of practice. I kinda shout the words, but put a growly tone to them from my lungs if that makes sense to you? I highly recommend small ammounts of whiskey, strepsils and throaties for when you get sore, but don't overdo it or you could go a few days with a raspy, lemmy esque voice (like I have now).

Author:  Nauthiz [ Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:02 pm ]
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I heard that drinking thick milkshake can help.. can't remember who i heard that from? I think morbid angel probally has the best kind of death metal vocals, cuz it takes lots of lung power, Steve tucker & Dave vincent are both great in my opinion.

Author:  Dan [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:22 pm ]
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Yeah for shouty Dave Vincent style vocals Chocolate Milkshake (especially Friji) is great. If you're a lung power person though it apparently just fucks your voice up.

Author:  Nauthiz [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:05 pm ]
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Yea im not actually a singer so i don't know too much, but i do sing along to some stuff. It must be really hard to do it live expecially cuz it has to be loud which i've always found really hard. Playing an instrument & singing is impossible for me

Author:  Minions Engage [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:38 pm ]
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practice a lot...i dunno how to tell you how to do death vox but ive started by doing Black vocals i think they are easier and less strenuous on the throat....i just sing along whenever i listen to Mayhem, Aeternus, Darkthrone....and at this point i can do a pretty good Euronymous cover as opposed to maybe a month ago when i first tried so practice does help and you learn to hit the notes in the growl...some times you cant get your voice to crack and give you that nice growl but with practice it comes....maybe after years you can mimic Mikael Akerfeldt but i suppose his vocals are one of the hardest to mimic....

Author:  Dan [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:15 pm ]
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I think apart from the clean stuff Mikael Akerfeldt is a pretty crap vocalist. You want hard - you wanna try to sing along to Bethlehem's "Dictius Te Necare" album! You won't be able to talk after a minute of doing it!!!

Author:  Minions Engage [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:18 pm ]
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read the first post....the point was that he called "good" vocals the ones like mikael's where you can actually hear the lyrics....im sure its hard to follow along with that stuff but the point was how to do it without hurting your throat

Author:  Ragnar The Destroyer [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:23 pm ]
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Right ladies! I think this might be my area of expertise!
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1. practice your ass off, That applies to everyone playing an instrument singing, wanking if you wanna get good at summat practice. (Practice makes perfect)

2. lung power is a major factor if u wanna sing loud or more complex parts. If u have noticed mithras have alot more lyrics per song than other death bands often the vocals are structured so there is little breathing spaces!If your lung power is waning the only way is to practice!( and maybe stop smoking if you do)

3 Breathing! This is critical if u fuck up ur breathing you can fuck up the part and lose your placement within the song.Again practice try and identify your breath points, may be lots of small ones instead of a large one.Taking breaths goes hand in hand with timing!

4 Timing. This applies to all parts of the band, but if your the singer and your out u look the twat wether it is your fault or not, so make sure your in and make sure the rest of the band are practiced enough for them to stay in time!

5 Keep at it . Just cus something sounds shit the first time you do it keep at it your voice needs conditioning time and eventually you will get it.Yes experiment different ways of doing it maybe find an easier way of doing it but remember are u compromising power and style just so u don`t get tired.

6 be critical does it sound shit do you think you can get it better, if your not sure keep at it and see if your voice gets better.

7 Warm up. I have never heard another singer warm up before a gig, i do every time. The first thing people listen to and the most predominate person in the band is the singer. If your are shit the band looks shit!

8 Right if you want more aggressive audible singing stretch your neck out extend your vocal chords and make it a bit more shouty. If you are after a low end rumble then move your chin closer to your chest and use your lungs to evoke a lower tone.

9 I`m getting sick of this. This is my state right now not a suggestion for your singing technique.

10 Give it every thing you have. Early on when you are learning the passion will make it feel alot better than it may well be. But when you feel that you are able to do it comfortable try and pull back and control those vox puting the accents where they are meant to be and keep the power behind the whole vocal

11 right! how to be a frontman is next weeks list ok!

Author:  Ragnar The Destroyer [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:29 pm ]
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Oh by the way i drink a pint of milk an hour and water on top!

Author:  Nauthiz [ Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:30 pm ]
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Well i think thats told us all!!

Nice one Raynar!

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