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Author:  Dungeon Shaker [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:18 pm ]
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Comments to this, even if just "you need to get a life, mate!" will be appreciated! :lol:


One million years ago back in 2003, I picked up an issue of Terrorizer, I'm not proud of it, but I was bored, and I was flicking through it.

I cam across a picture of the Eagle Nebula which turned out to be the advertisement for some album by some band. I flicked further on.
Eventually I got to some page that had an interview with two very interesting looking blokes, regarding an album by the Eagle Nebula blokes that seemed to be about spirituality and the evolution of consciousness, or some intellectual bollocks like that.
As at the time I was sick of "Wargh, God is a prick!" metal, I thought it sounded pretty interesting.
I went ahead and placed an order for it.

A few days later "Worlds Beyond The Veil" arrived in the mail.

At the time I discovered Worlds Beyond The Veil, my parents were going through a violent and hateful divorce that to me just showcased how utterly superficial and petty the pair of them are, I had just quit my job after three months of deciding that I hated pluming. And I'm an upper middle class type, spoilt rotten, with a metallic and almost silver spoon in my mouth, I naturally thought the world itself had come to an end.

WBTV came and I was impressed with it. I found the pictures of the natural beauty of the cosmos (echoing a statement by Stephen Fry that nature is only capable of beauty, even when it's destroying shit, no matter WHAT it does), and I flicked through and looked at all the long "pompous" lyrics, and after a while I decided to put it on.

This moment is one of my greatest memories, just some sudden realization/understanding/awareness/whatever, of something wonderful, something which may not have neccesarily been THE truth, but is A truth, whatever.

I give Leon/Rayner the same pity/understanding I give Tom Fischer/Ihsahn, both of them are men of tremendous influence yet are overwhelmed by the amount of people who worship them.

Whatever this means.

Anyway, this is one big whole nonsensical barely constructed rant about how significant WBTV was to me.
When I bumped into Leon and Rayner at Emperor a couple of years ago, an experience which, egotistically, left me thinking I was the most important person on Earth, I remember that I discussed with him "the new album". the as of yet unleased "BTSLM", and how much I was looking forwards to it.
I remember several statements on here on how I specifically hoped they didn't surpass certain tracks, riffs, lyrics. etc.

WBTV has since become my favourite album, and Mithras my favourite band. Both of which becoming severely significant things to me, and things that I attempt to pass on to other people, and things that I scowl at when people incorrectly blabber the "Morbid Angel With Distortion" label.

When BTSLM came out I was torn between wanting them to top WBTV and yet wanted them to do an awesome album but not as awesome as WBTV.

BTSLM, for me is a solid 10/10 as far as critique goes, I cannot honestly think of a single fault with it, however-
Upon retrospect, Worlds Beyond The Veil is probably the most significant album to me, as an appreciator of metal and music in general, that I can think of. It's an album that saved a miserable self-infatuated stereotype metalhead's life, one that opened a lot of doors for him as well.

I don't know whether or not Mithras will appreciate this, but I don't consider BTSLM a greater album than WBTV. I pretty much believe that they could exist for a million years and assimilate much more extremely talented musicians and never quite top what they achieved with WBTV.
I do believe that everything they do will be an absolute mastery, but I don't want to believe that anything they do will be foreshadowed by WBTV.
WBTV is a seperate entity. A totally different monster.

I suppose it's also weird bestowing this much reverance upon people who I have met, and have been totally down to earth and fun.
Rayner was fun and nerdy, to me
Ben was mental and fun, to me
Leon was fun and clever, to me

I'm not sure where I'm going with this post, I'm bored and tired, and I love Worlds Beyond The Veil, ok?

I hope that anything Mithras do in the future is as amazing, interesting, musicially proficient, and just appealing to the basic metalhead desires that be "loud and fast" rackets. I wish Ben, Leon, and Rayner, who is regrettably leaving for different pastures, the greatest fortunes in whatever they pursue, musically or otherwise.

I hope that album 4 is an absolute fucking world endingly awesome album, I hope that in thirty years they're the band kids talk about in hushed voices as being the most significant force in metal, I hope that they fucking rule the world.




Sorry for this post that is mostly just noise.
Just wanted to state how sad it is that a BAND are more important to me than oxygen, freedom, and the ability to think are!


Merry Christmas!

Author:  Minions Engage [ Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:46 pm ]
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I hope they rule the world too! For them to be the greatest band in thirty years that the little kids talk about will not only make Leon/Rayner/Ben/and any future members proud but it will some how reflect the importance of Mithras onto you and I. I will somehow feel that being one of the original devotee's to this band will make me important just the same. Being a part of the Epic Journey that is Mithras is an honour to me as a fan. No matter what the three of you decide to do with your lives and the band, the music that you will leave behind is truly special to me.

It's extremely disappointing that I could not make this last show, but trust me had the Atlantic Ocean not existed I would have been there in the front row with the rest of you mutilating my brain cells.

Hopefully I will be able to make the Rayner Coss reunion show years from now, which will happen because I say so :twisted: ***holds Rayner at gunpoint***



(I was listening to WBTV as I read your post and wrote this. Utter brilliance.)

Author:  leeless [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:05 pm ]
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Ahhh...so this is the Mithras Anonymous thread.

What is it about Mithras that inspires such freaky enthusiasm? Does everyone in the world have a band that they feel so strongly for, or is it only a numbered few that have this reaction to such a "special" band?

Author:  Weasel [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:00 am ]
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Author:  Ragnar The Destroyer [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:04 pm ]
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Yeah I think we got sick of "blame it on god" type metal aswell. In fact I still am!

Author:  Dungeon Shaker [ Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:13 pm ]
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Wow, I have to admit I was drunk as shi-ite when I made this post, and had got bored of getting furniture for my flat and was starting to grow content of sitting on the floor.
I decided to listen to Mithras and thought back to when I discovered them, probably the last significant event of my childhood, and made a big bollocky teary eyed piss rant about it.

As far as "Warghghjr, fuck you, God!" metal, I'll put it like this
Unless you're

A) Funny
B) Smart
C) Slayer
D) Different enough to be interesting

You can fuck right off.

Watain, darlings of modern black metal, entitled their demo "Go Fuck Your Jewish God"
If this was 1990 I'd be WELL fucking impressed.
As it's one million years later in a [slightly] more educated world, I'm wondering how many of those whose intellectual input went into the title had lost their virginity.

I mean, Slayer get away with it, despite Tom Araya being a Catholic, on the grounds that he fully knows what is more fun to sing about between
"Flowers, tolerance, happiness"
and
"Wah, hail satan, lets go watch shit explode, EVVVILLLL!"

Slayer also get away with it because they rule :lol:




As for my thoughts on Christianity - I may not like Christianity, or man-made religion in general, and there are a lot in its teachings and some of its more passionate followers that I find fault with, but I will defend to the fucking death the right for people to follow it.




I'ma go listen to the new Cradle of Filth! :P

Author:  leeless [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:13 pm ]
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"man-made religion"

Unikron, are you using this term to differentiate from another form of religion?

And did James tell you that I am a pedant?

Author:  Leon [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:18 am ]
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Author:  Dungeon Shaker [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:36 pm ]
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Sounds great, Leon. Can't wait to hear it.

Lee- Nah, mate, James just said you were a massive racist is all :lol: . And also, yes, there are religions not made by men. I am of course talking about the religions made by aliens, otherworldly entities, and Skynet.
Also, you're not a very good pedant if you didn't even bother capitalising the first letter of your username!

Author:  leeless [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:16 pm ]
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He enjoys telling people who don't know me that. I don't know why. As it happens, I am, complicatedly, "Racist", but sod all that, this isn't Question Time.

Without detracting from this fine thread anymore, I would just like to say...goodbye. I am giving up the Internet for a year.

Hail Mithras. Long live the Cult. May it's members continue to dream in splendour \m/

Author:  Leon [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:45 pm ]
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Author:  Dungeon Shaker [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:20 am ]
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See you in a bit, Lee. Have a good un.

Author:  leeless [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:51 pm ]
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Last 5 hours of porn freedom, so I'll be brief. Several of you have my number. If anything cool happens with Mithras, let me know.

It's been a pleasure.

Author:  Nauthiz [ Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:35 pm ]
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